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Approximately one-half of the respondents included comments and recommendations in addition to answering the questions.  Several noteworthy aspects can be observed from the overall twelve page questionnaire and the additional comments.

First, the eleven percent response from the residents was far more than necessary for statistical reliability of the survey.

Second, the responses indicated a critical and objective knowledge of the community, particularly in terms of the needs, problems and shortfalls that cry out for remediation.

Third, despite the frustrations, annoyances and criticisms, there was a strong current of expressed pride and love for the community.

Comments ranged from the very general to very specific observations and recommendations.  They are grouped on the following pages under the broad categories of Transportation and Traffic, Land Use Issues, Quality of Life, Maintenance, and Community Attractiveness, Taxes, Recreation and Environment, Community Facilities, Enforcement and Town Government, and School District.    There was some repetition which helps to identify the more common interests.  It must be kept in mind though that even where only one respondent raised an issue, it deserves attention.

I.  Transportation and Traffic -- The concerns expressed herein cover services, signs, signalization, and road geometrics (width, curves, etc.) and traffic.

a.  Service

1.  Buses should be environmentally responsible - electric buses such as Electric Fuel Cell Corporation

2.  Trolleys are a dumb idea; electric trolley - get a trip

2a. Electric trolley-what planet are you on?

3.  Provide bus service every half hour to shopping and malls

4.  Improve bus service

5.  Provide cutout spaces at bus stops so that traffic will not be impeded

6.  Restrict large commercial and school buses to main roads.  Use jitneys for the narrow streets.

7.  School bus pickup locations need to be located closer to homes, instead of on busy dangerous roads.

8.  Improve bus service to Port Jefferson, Smith Haven Mall, etc.

9.  Bus stops at Kohls and Pier 1 should have shelters and benches

10.  Trolleys may be a good idea, but electric lines may cause cancer

11.  Expand bus service on North Shore Beach.  Accessibility is important for seniors and health impaired.

12.  Stop worrying about pedestrian traffic

13.  Stop speeding noisy buses

14.  Unregistered cars parked on people’s lawns are an eyesore

15.  Brookhaven Drive needs curbs to tie into rest of development

16.  Pedestrian overpass at 25A/Hallock to Rocky Point Yaphank Road

17.  Sidewalks needed on Hallock Landing Road from 25A north; speedbumps needed same road

18.  Traffic study for Hallock Landing Road

19.  Open 2nd and 3rd Avenues

20.  Sidewalk needed Broadway residential area

21.  No commercial vehicles with advertising in residential area

22.  Soundview Drive needs repairs

23.  Trolleys - get serious!   my house is on right-of-way - I would move

24.  Fix exit to MI Yaphank Road;

25. Slow traffic on 25A

26. Live on steep hill - ice and snow removal big problem

Ib.  Signs, Signalization and Lighting

1.  Install four-way stop signs at Freya and Teepee

2.  Eliminate the traffic light at McGarricks and synchronize all lights on 25A

3.  Install 3-way stop signs at Prince Road and Condor Road

4.  Streets signs are missing on Soundview after Queens until Xyla

5.  Install stop signs on Magnolia Drive

6.  Remove all “For Sale” signs from utility poles

7.  Improve timing of lights on Hallock Landing Road and Rocky Point Landing Road

8.  Correct and make consistent spelling on street signs; e.g., Bracken Road, Caddy Place (or Caddy Road)

9.  Install street signs for King Street at corner of King and Apricot

10.  Install more street lights on the older narrow roads

11.  Roads and signalization should be professionally determined by the engineers, not the public

12. There is a need for a traffic light at the Waldbaum’s exit onto 25A

13.  Rocky Point Junior High School should have its own light-controlled exit onto 25A

14.  All stop sign locations should have lines and painted stop on roadway

15.  The traffic light at 25A and Rocky Point/Yaphank Road should have a turning arrow    on 25A for eastbound traffic

16.  Paint a yellow line divider on Friendship Drive to the water

17.  Dead end streets should be better posted

18.  Install 4-way stop signs at Peacock and Prince

19.  Install stop signs at Hallock Landing at 4th Avenue

20.  Eliminate louvers on the traffic lights for clearer vision

21.  Paint double yellow road divider on Harding

22.  Make sure flashing lights at schools operate at proper hours

23.  Lengthen time for crossing on the cross walk lights

24.  Paint road lines more often

25.  Right turns on red lights should be prohibited from 8:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.

26.  Pedestrian crosswalks are needed at McDonalds, Old Friendly’s, Little League field, and Old Thyme Deli

27.  Right turns on red should be allowed on 25A

28.  No left turn should be allowed at 7-11 onto Yaphank Road

29.  Traffic light needed at Hallock Landing and Aspen Road

30.  The street light petition submitted on September 2001 was ignored

31.  Traffic lights are needed on Aspen Road, Ridge, and Tamaras

32.  White side-of-road line marking needs to be visible at night

33.  3way light/stop sign at Soundway Drive/Rocky Point Landing

34.  Unfair that 2nd and 3rd Avenues dead end

35.   Everyone cuts through Prince & Peacock to avoid light at Broadway

36.  Traffic light at McCarricks too long - blinking light instead

37.  Light at Waldbaums/25A

38.  Traffic light/stop sign at Marconi Blvd (Rocky Pt. Yaphank Road) by old King Kullen parking lot; exit lane should be changed back

39.  Longer light needed at 25A/Hallock Landing Road

40.  Time traffic light at North Country Road/25A

1c.  Traffic

         1.  Enforce a speed limit in business area along 25A from Hallock Landing Road to CR 83

         2.  Control the speeding, especially on Rocky Point Landing Road

         3.  Need safe bicycle right-of-ways

         4.  Fix the egress at Kohls

         5.  Limit parking near intersections to improve the sight distance for cross traffic

         6.  Re-align and straighten Hallock Landing Road

         7.  Franks needs designated parking since Kohls has taken the spaces

         8.  Enforce all speed limits

         9.  Improve all the local roads – need repaving, pot hole repair, etc.

10.  Need sidewalks in residential areas for safety, such as Hallock Landing Road to the south of Rocky Point Road

      11.  Improve the roadway at Rocky Point Jewelers and the 7-11

      12.  There are too many accidents

13.  Need for handicapped parking spaces, e.g., Kohls, Waldbaums, CVS--enforce against illegal use of handicapped stickers by healthy drivers

      14.  Parking should be restricted at beaches for residents.  Stop giving out tickets.

      15.   Prohibit people under 30 from driving pickups, 4x4, and SUVs

      16.  Open 2nd and 3rd Avenues to traffic

      17.  Keep 2nd and 3rd Avenues closed to thru traffic

      18.  Right turn movement at Hallock and 25A should be more strictly enforced

      19.  Eliminate street parking on Garland Road

      20.  Make speed limit throughout Rocky Point uniform at 20 mph

      21.  Dead end Prince Road at Tyler Street in order to create more parking at Polk and Tyler

22.  Hallock Landing Park needs safe walkways and crossings for the children; have crossing guards at the schools

      23. Parking should be allowed at Hallock Beach

24.  Build sidewalks on lower Rocky Point Road for safe access to Tides and Pickwick beaches

      25.  Open beaches to 4-wheel drive vehicles

      26.  Build an island on 25A in front of Blockbuster to prevent left turns into the parking lot

      27.  Build an island on 25A between 7-11 and CVS to prevent illegal crossovers

28.  The exit at the old King Kullen parking lot is too narrow.  An exit to Rocky Point/Yaphank Road should be reopened

      29.  Soundview Drive should become a public road

      30.  The roads in Rocky Point should have curbs installed

      31.  Repair the pothole on Patchogue Drive

      32.  The “no right turn” on Broadway and Prince should be strictly enforced

33.  The utility poles along Hallock Landing Road should be moved back (north of Rocky Point Road)

      34.  Marconi Boulevard should be widened from 25A and Rocky Point schools

      35.  Install a sidewalk on Lower Rocky Point Landing Road near the Joseph Edgar school

      36.  Build overpass on 25A to the new Waldbaums, Pier 1 and Hollywood Video

      37.  Enforce against the illegal crossing of the striped median to get into Blockbusters

      38.  Westchester Drive needs repaving

      39.  Prohibit all right turns on red

      40.  Stop speeders between Short Lane/Tides beach; eliminate heavy trucks same road; need paving same road

      41.  Open 2nd and 3rd Avenue

II.  Land Use Issues

      1.  Limit further residential and commercial development

      2.  Stop residential development on undersized (less than 1/4 acre) lots

      3.  Need for affordable housing

      4.  Keep out all “box” stores

      5.  Support more business development, e.g., Lowes, movie theater at King Kullen site

      6.  Build Lowes - good for taxes

7.  Use the 33 acres behind McDonalds for housing on 3/4 acre lots; use a portion for the Rocky Point School and use the rest for businesses

      8.  Don’t allow Lowes at Gold driving rnage

      9.  Prohibit further rentals

      10.  Support Lowes - we need tax revenue

      11.  No more 7-11s, Waldbaums, etc.

      12.  No more strip commercial

      13.  Don’t build “country club” firehouse.  Taxes too high already

      14.  No more fast food stores

      15.  Need a better drugstore

16.  Replace all rental apartments on Polk and Tyler and convert land for restaurants and parking

17.  Prohibit and stop businesses from creating storage yards.  It makes the business area resemble a seedy looking industrial area

      18.  Do not allow a group home for disabled on the Fairfield property

      19.  Need legal rental housing - get rid of illegal rentals       

      20.  Encourage the establishment of a well landscaped “restaurant row” on Broadway

21.  Rocky Point needs the creation of a common aesthetic theme throughout the business area

      22.  Remove group homes on Zenith Road

      23.  Eliminate motel housing between Prince and 25A

      24.  Anthony Grigalfi proposal for the Sokol property is great

      25.  Keep open Space - too many new homes

      26.  Stop overdevelopment

      27.  Increase open space preservatin

      28.  Create individul hamlet identity

      29.  YMCA or park for driving range

      30.  Reject Lowes

      31.  Keep 25A rural

      32.  Keep more open space

      33.  Why was there no question regarding Lowes on survey

      34.  No more strip malls - prefer open space, even coops, condos or houses

III.  Quality of Life, Maintenance, and Community Attractiveness

      1.  Medians on 25A should be better maintained

      2.  Modernize the stores and get a face-lift for Kohls

      3.  Limit the number of dogs per property owner

      4.  Improve the maintenance of the playgrounds

      5.  Provide new benches at Hallock Landing playground

      6.  Too many signs - get rid of “visual pollution”

      7.  Street sweeping on curbless streets is a waste

      8.  Improve the landscaping on 2nd and 3rd Avenues near the crash rails

      9.  Better landscape maintenance is needed on 25A median

      10 Control night time glare in the wintertime from lights

      11.  Increase town pickups of scrapped home utilities, e.g., washers, etc.

      12.  Downtown business area is shabby and littered.  Clean it up!

      13.  Business owners should improve their landscaping and litter cleanup

      14.  Tear down the old motel on Tyler Avenue

      15.  Remove the homeless people from the playground behind Tildens

      16.  More accessible pay telephones are needed

      17.  Make homeowners trip their trees that block sight distance

      18.  Control barking dogs and noisy radios

      19.  Stop trying to make Rocky Point elitist

      20.  Landscape the asphalt parking lots

      21.  Clean up the litter and garbage

      22.  Clean up King Kullen site

      23.  Too many commercial vehicles and buses are parking on residential streets

24.  School accomplishments should receive better P.R. and media coverage for the generation of increased community pride

      25.  Remove derelict cars at the entrance to Friendship Beach

      26.  Preserve the environment and promote a healthier community

      27.  Protect the open space in the community         

      28.  Improve garbage collection

      29.  We need more community pride

30.  Homeowners should clean up.  Vehicles should only be in driveways not parked all over the lawn areas

      31.  Too many absentee landlords

      32.  The Beach Association doesn’t do its job in maintaining roads, security, etc.

      33.  Shops and parking areas are ugly

      34.  Rocketship Park needs more cleaning and upkeep

      35.  Clean up Broadway

36.  The Terraces do not receive Town services for snow, leaf and brush removal or road repair - can we get help?

      37.  Prohibit the use of sirens on 25A from midnight to 6:00 a.m.

      38.  Rocky Point needs an active resident neighborhood watch

      39.  Rental housing needs upgrading in maintenance

      40.  The “Welcome to Rocky Point” sign needs upkeep and neat landscaping

      41.  The Blue Lounge at 25A and Broadway is an eyesore

      42.  Establish a curfew on teenagers

      43.  Bring back the Arts/Craft Fair

      44.  Outlaw portable signs

      45.  Prohibit the breeding of pit bulls in Rocky Point

      46.  Bulldoze the “Blue”

      47.  The clothing bin near the Busy B Cleaner should be properly maintained

      48.  Need a pooper scooper law

      49.  Outlaw nosy leaf blowers

      50.  Remove the monstrous sign poles just west of the by-pass at McDonalds

      51.  The cat population in Rocky Point is out of control

      52.  Demolish the abandoned Friendly’s store

53.  Roadsides and median dividers are poorly maintained - colorful perennials and/or non-deciduous shrubbery should be installed, especially along 25A

54.  The new “Kentucky Fried Chicken” building is a box with no aesthetic or architectural beauty.  There is a slanted roof metal “shed” attached to the building and a separate “tool shed” like structure at the front of the property in full view of the main road - this type building, with its paint over cement block” facade and tool sheds should not be allowed.

      55.  Create historic downtown with recreation opportunities

      56.  Renovate business district

      57.  CVS unkempt

      58.  Library at King Kullen/bowling alley site

      59.  Business district looks unkempt

      60.  Need lovely coffee shop, quaint theater, interesting and useful shops

      61.  Create a downtown we can be proud of

      62.  Prohibit loose dogs from running around - very frightening

      63.  Get better stores in downtown - never shop there

      64.  Remove old Friendly’s building

      65.  Need supermarket

      66.  Clean entrance to woods behind old bowling alley

      67.  Clean sups & sewers

      68.  Sweep residential streets

      69.  Need dog walk           

      70.  Renovate business district

      71.  Create community watch program

      72.  Waldbaums needs more handicapped parking

      73.   Return garbage cans to curbside

      74.  Median at 25A by JAE is a disgrace - 4' high weeds create driving hazard

IV.  Taxes

1.  Concern over taxation, particularly for seniors on fixed income, and moderate income wage earners

      2.  Lower taxes

      3.  Increase tax base

V.  Recreation and Environment

      1.  Need a YMCA

      2.  Need an activity center for the youth

3.  The 33 acre parcel should become a winter-park for sledding, ice skating, etc., and a summer park for nature discovery

      4.  Need more recreational activities, e.g., bowling alley, movie theater, and waterfront                                recreation

      5.  Use the LIPA/Keyspan right-of-way for a biking/jogging trail into the pine barrens

      6.  Reopen the ramps to the beaches at Hallock and Broadway

      7.  Restore the historic High Cliff Beach cable car

      8.  Provide handicap accessibility at the beaches

      9.  Open all the beaches to the public

10.  The vacant lot on the west side of Broadway should become a park for roller and ice skating

      11.  Build an Olympic pool in cooperation with the Shoreham/Wading River School District

      12.  Convert the motel area across from Truber Lumber for a teenager friendly park

      13.  Control and restrict fishing from the jetty at the public beach next to Tides Beach

      14.  Clean up Pickwick Beach and build a safe stairway to the beach

      15.  The Rocky Point driving range should be kept for commercial recreation

      16.   Need more recreation facilities

VI.  Community Facilities

      1.  Need a bookstore and library

      2.  Build a library and post office annex in the business district

      3.  YMCA or park for driving range

      4.  Library at King Kullen site

      5.  Supermarket

      6.  Need Lowes

      7.  Need coffee shop, interesting shops

      8.  Need multi-use park

      9.  Need more recreation facilities

      10.  Need quicker police response

      11.  Movie house for young people

      12.  Need theater

      13.  Charge for garbage collection by bag

      14.  Need more police

      15.  Put movie theater in King Kullen site

      16.  Close golf course behind Majestic Gardens

VII.  Enforcement and Town Government

      1.  Improve the storm drainage on Hallock Landing Road

      2.  Improve the performance of the Town highway workers

      3.  Increase police patrols at night

      4.  Prohibit and enforce no more than three unrelated persons from occupying housing

      5.  Prohibit fleet rental cars from parking on the streets

      6.  Simplify zoning variance procedures

7.  We need more and better governmental services - cleanup of litter, landscape waste, protection, road maintenance, youth activities, etc.

      8.  Town should create an architectural review board (promote “quaint colonial feeling”)

      9.  Residents should have a vote on zoning changes

      10.  Enforce all cell phone laws

11.  We need a Town ordinance that sets a time limit to either rebuild a burned out home, or have it demolished - not just boarded up

      12.  The Republican Town government is controlled by the builders and real estate interests

13.  The Town should control runoff into Long Island Sound from the dock to improve the marine environment

14.  The Town should prohibit the moving company near the Knights of Columbus from parking their trucks on the sidewalk

      15.  The Town should eliminate the flooding in the business district

      16.  The Town government ignores Rocky Point

      17.  Control quads and bikes at Hagerman Landing Wildlife Area

      18.  Hunting should be limited in the Rocky Point Pine Barrens

      19.  Rocky Point should incorporate

      20.  Don’t allow trespass and usage on the LIPA right-of-way

      21.  Control overcrowded apartments and illegal workers

      22.  Control unleased dogs

      23.  Control cat problems

      24.  Cat problem severe -

      25.  No bars without restaurant

      24.  Too many rentals downtown

      25.  Limit leaf blowers

      26.  Do something about boarded p HUD houses on North Shore Beach

      27.  Water drainage problem on North Shore Beach area

      28.  Place more “children at play” signs

      29.  Request underground telephone wires

      30.  Rezone Hallock Landing area

      31.  Prohibit keeping large trash on curb for months

      32.  Enforce leash laws

VIII.  School District

1.  The school district should use the yellow house next to the North Fork Bank instead of renting space

      2. The school facilities need expanding to handle the overcrowding 

3.  The new addition to the “Joseph A. Edgar” school is a perfect cube attached to the existing building - the roof styles and facades do not match or even compliment each other.  Buildings that are attached or close to each other should have the same architectural styles

      4.  School taxes out of control

      5.  Reduce school budget - it’s too high

      6.  Lower school taxes

      7.  Provide after school programs - especially in middle school gym

      8.  More affordable recreation programs for children

Additional Comments:   

Good job civics!

Survey is a great idea

Good questions

Great questions

Survey is a good idea

Very comprehensive survey

Can’t wait to see results of survey

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